Natural Born Citizen and Naturalized Citizen Explained Once And For All!

“12 short minutes and you will learn the truth about Cruz and Rubio. Your attention is directed specifically at bench marks…3:45, 4:45, 5:10 and lastly @ 8:20 this is the most comprehensive presentation you will find anywhere.”

Thank you,

Thomas Long III

Read more here:  https://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/category/natural-born-citizen/

Please read – Vattel, Law of Nations, Book I, Ch. XIX, at §§ 212-217

41 thoughts on “Natural Born Citizen and Naturalized Citizen Explained Once And For All!

    1. Barbie says:

      I expect nothing less from this woman. In fact, she states that the BOOK contains the language that confers citizenship based on the father’s citizenship and the mother’s citizenship is nothing except what is the fathers. Yet the constitution makes NO mention of the gender. In 1940 more clarity came as they grappled with the fallout of war. (Many babies born to service members overseas in the heat of passion I suppose.) So, in stating that we must use legally what a book written back then for interpreting the actual constitution today is NULL. Especially when we’re not so clear anymore on gender designation!!!!! Who knows, maybe Crew’s mom wears the pants.

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      1. Albert says:

        “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”
        This statement, from “The Law of Nations”, which she quotes from, makes no mention of gender, and specifies parents (notice the “s”, meaning not one). BOTH parents, “IN THE COUNTRY”, obviously meaning not on foreign soil!

        No legal translation needed. THIS is the definition the Founders understood when the Constitution was drafted! It is not vague. It does not beat around the bush.

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      2. smrstrauss says:

        Re: “The law of nations.”

        Sure, that is what Vattel, a Monarchist who never recommended elections and who said that every country should have a nobility and a state religion, said. That was Vattel’s idea—but it is not the idea on which the Constitution is based. In fact, Vattel is not mentioned in the Federalist Papers even once. Not one time. But the common law is mentioned about 15 times and Blackstone five times. In short, the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from THE COMMON LAW and not from Vattel’s book “The Law of Nations.”

        “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

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      3. Barbie, u must be ignorant to the law girly, the male is dominant in every situation, as they should be. this woman’s lib stuff is horse crap, it is so very not lady-like to boss a man around, pure trash but no one should be degraded & obum should not be president! i’m withdrawing my consent.

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    BEWARE of relying on the judiciary; for example(s): look what happened with ObamaCare and Obergefell v. Hodges!!! In addition, with the passing (homicide (?)) of Scalia, there is a serious possibility that if the natural born Citizen issue reaches the U.S. Supreme Court there would be a 4-4 split decision. Also: Trump just indicated that the Republicans may be backing down (at approximately 5:35 of https://youtu.be/J0nklA02iVg (“Full Speech: Donald Trump Rally in Walterboro, SC (2-17-16)”). Perhaps, that’s another reason that Donald Trump is hesitating to bring a lawsuit!

    So the pillow was apparently a warning. Is this also a warning – “”I continue to believe Mr. Trump will not be president,” Obama said” (—http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/16/politics/obama-donald-trump-president/ )? (Note: https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/top-bilderberger-declares-war-on-donald-trump-the-world-elite-are-scared/comment-page-1/#comment-6510 ). Moreover, both Obama in his SOTU speech and the Republicans in their response(s) apparently attacked Republican frontrunner Donald Trump. This stuff is unheard of!!! (Note: (1) ‘when, in a popular government, there is a suspension of the laws, as this can proceed only from the corruption of the republic, the state is certainly undone.’ — Charles de Montesquieu (2) Alice in Wonderland ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbAv1r4UqDM ) (3) ‘As virtue is necessary in a republic, and in a monarchy honor, so fear is necessary in a despotic government: with regard to virtue, there is no occasion for it, and honor would be extremely dangerous.’— Charles de Montesquieu). Folks – WE NEED TO CONTACT OUR REPUBLICAN SENATORS ETC. TO BLOCK ANY NOMINATION BY OBAMA FOR U.S. SUPREME COURT!!!

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  2. I would love to hear her speak to 0bummer’s dubious ‘citizenship’!
    NOT ONLY was 0bummer’s father (Barack Obama Sr.) a citizen of the British protectorate now known as Kenya; when Lolo Soetoro adopted him and took him to Indonesia, he gained Indonesian citizenship while simultaneously losing American citizenship!
    So NOT ONLY is he NOT a ‘natural-born’ American citizen, he’s STILL an Indonesian citizen that overstayed his student visa, and should have been deported LONG AGO…
    = = =
    Can anyone PROVE ME WRONG???
    Any guesses why he sealed ALL of his personal records???

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    1. smrstrauss says:

      Obama never had Indonesian citizenship, nor was he ever adopted—–as a simple telephone call to the Indonesian embassy in Washington will confirm. BTW, a child cannot lose US citizenship.

      Obama’s father was not a US citizen, but since Obama was born on US soil (and that has been proven overwhelmingly) that has no effect whatever.

      Obama really was born in Hawaii, as shown by his HAWAII birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii and the Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers and it only did so for births in Hawaii). Oh, and birther sites LIED when they said that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. She really said that he was born IN HAWAII in three interviews of which birther sites showed their readers only part of one, carefully cutting off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born and replied: “In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time.” (Now I wonder why a birther site would do that?) And there isn’t even proof that Obama’s mother HAD A PASSPORT in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did at the time. And EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy at the time due to the risk of stillbirths. Yet BOTH of those highly unlikely things would have had to have happened AND the officials of BOTH parties lied AND the Index Data and the birth notices (on microfilm rolls in two libraries) would have had to have been forged for Obama to have been born in a foreign country and not in HAWAII.

      And EVERY child born on US soil except for the children of foreign diplomats and members of an invading army is a NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN.

      “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      “Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning.”—The Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574322281597739634.html?KEYWORDS=obama+%22natural+born+citizen%22+minor+happersett)

      “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”—Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

      More reading on the subject:

      http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/31/is-rubio-eligible/

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/02/birtherism-2012

      http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/04/vattel-and-natural-born-citizen/

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution

      http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

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    2. smrstrauss says:

      Obama did not “seal” his personal records. He simply did not release them—-because neither did John McCain or Mitt Romney or previous presidents and presidential candidates. (Did you think that it was normal for presidents and presidential candidates to release grades and passport records and parents’ marriage licenses, all of which the right wing called for in Obama’s case? Well, it ISN’T). And none of those records are “sealed.” Not Obama’s or Romney’s or Bill Clinton’s or Bush’s or Gore’s or Bush41’s or Reagan’s or Carter’s or Ford’s or Nixon’s. They are all simply covered under the normal state and federal privacy laws——and that is all.

      Similarly, the claims that Obama was adopted and that he became an Indonesian citizen are birther LIES. A simple telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy will confirm that they are all false.

      Finally, the citizenship of Obama’s father or of both of Rubio’s parents has no effect on their Natural Born Citizen status whatever since they were both born on US soil (Cruz wasn’t so indeed there is an issue with him).

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      Obama’s birth on US soil has been proven overwhelmingly.

      It has been shown by his HAWAII birth certificate (short form and long form) and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii and the Index Data file and the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers and it only did so for births in Hawaii).

      Oh, and birther sites LIED when they said that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya. She really said that he was born IN HAWAII in three interviews of which birther sites showed their readers only part of one, carefully cutting off the tape recordings on their sites just before she was asked where he was born and replied: “In Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time.” (Now I wonder why a birther site would do that?)

      And there isn’t even proof that Obama’s mother HAD A PASSPORT in 1961, and very very few 18-year-olds did at the time. And EXTREMELY few women traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy at the time due to the risk of stillbirths. Yet BOTH of those highly unlikely things would have had to have happened AND the officials of BOTH parties lied AND the Index Data and the birth notices (on microfilm rolls in two libraries) would have had to have been forged for Obama to have been born in a foreign country and not in HAWAII.

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      1. That is NOT true.according to the constitution your parents have to be citizens and Rubios werent and Ted was born in Canada and his father was not American as well.

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  3. Shela says:

    And so now we got Donald Trump & their man from the very beginning Jebra Jane Bush. Folks this is serious. Donald Trump is in danger! They want Bush at any cost. They want to continue on with their evil world plans. I feel they knew from the beginning Cruz nor Rubio could run. It was a trick. Never underestimate the evil world powers. We must pray without ceasing.

    These evil people will look up at the Lord in hell. The Lord will ask them, was it worth losing your soul for? On earth you gained nothing. You didn’t even have the respect of your fellow man. Those co-workers you had. You knew you had to always be looking over your shoulders. If the man you worked for cared so little about people, those people in the World Trade Center, those people in Benghazi, if so little was cared about there lives you know without a doubt your life is not worth two cents if you ever get in the way. So if the Lord ask you, “was it worth it?” How would you reply? Senators, Congressmen, Hillary, Gowdy, Ryan, Kerry, Lynch, Mitch, Rice, Beck, Roger, Murdock, Megyn, …….on & on. people How will you reply to the Lord. Already lives On your watch are crying up from the graves. Countries being bombed, homes, schools, hospitals destroyed. All for what? Selfish gain. How will you answer when you stand before your creator? And never doubt it. You will one day very soon stand and face the Lord!

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  4. Everything this woman says about the terms in use at the time of the adoption of the Constitution may be 100% true but that has no bearing on the Fourteenth Amendment, which was ratified after the Civil War in 1868, long after the Framers were dead and buried. The Fourteenth Amendment changes the definition, not the other way around. That’s why it’s called an amendment.

    The Fourteenth Amendment may not be what the Framers intended (neither was the Civil War or the abolition of slavery) but it’s not being misinterpreted. It was designed to grant citizenship to former slaves who obviously didn’t have parents who were legally considered to be American citizens. Read the text for yourselves. “All persons born or naturalized…” is pretty straightforward. Obama and Rubio are citizens.

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      1. Amendment XIV Section 1 All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

        “…born or naturalized…” “Native born” may be defined as being the offspring of an American citizen, but being born within the jurisdiction of the U.S., even to non-citizen parents, is clearly covered by the Fourteenth. Being born outside the U.S. to American citizen(s) makes you a citizen by the standard of being “native born” as described in the video. Being born in U.S. territory, even to non-citizen parents, makes you a citizen by the standard of the Fourteenth Amendment. It doesn’t get much clearer than the language in Section 1.

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  5. Scott says:

    This information changes nothing. The Constitution means nothing to anyone alive today. It is nothing more than a contract that you are not a party to. Therefore the gov. does not have to apply it when legislating for you. Read Lysander Spooner’s, “The Constitution Of No Authority” for more details.

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  6. Pamela Sellarole says:

    “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.” These are the exact words of Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution in regard toi who is eligible to be our President. Why no one vetted Mr. Obombshell correctly, and why Senators Rubio and Cruz are still in the race if they do not meet these standards is beyond me.

    Scott, I don’t know where you get your anarchist claptrap, but when you live in a country, you follow the rules as they were laid down, or change said rules in a lawful manner. If that still doesn’t work for you, there are planes and ships carrying people away from our shores every day.

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    1. jenniferfromny says:

      So the President must be a natural born citizen which cones from “the parents” being citizens, which in that time meant a marital unit gaining its citizenship from the husband. Except they never got into any what-ifs, because there weren’t as many socially mainstream combinations of people.

      So if the Mother alone, unmarried is a citizen does she not “count?” If the mother and father are married and only one is a citizen does it still have to be the father that “counts?”

      Women got the vote less thsn 100 years ago so we can’t assume every valuation of women in 1788 to be applicable today. Women have ceased being lawful “property” of their husbands. So how this little lesson is the “final word” is betond me.

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  7. This is an opinion stated by a litigator, certainly not the final word. She will not find a judicial entity in the United States to adjudicate her opinion as legally binding. You can even take it to the Ninth Circus, surely they would love to rule against Ted and Marco, but they will not rule that the woman (Ted’s mother) doesn’t count. I can’t even say nice try on this one. She sounds like she’s making a presentation for students to argue against not seriously presenting a case before a judge.

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  8. Chrissy says:

    Did the majority of you people ACTUALLY WATCH AND LISTEN TO the entire clip????????? She IN FACT DID SAY, President Obama IS a natural born citizen and CRUZTY & RUBICKS CUBE >>>A~R~E…N~O~T…E~L~I~G~I~B~L~E…TO BE president of the united states of America. GOOD GRIEF. Turn UP your Beltone or Miracle Ear and put your glasses on……

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  9. Ed Garland says:

    A person born outside the United States to a Cuban father cannot be considered a “natural born” citizen. Cruz is exactly the type of man the founders wanted to keep out of the White House- a man of mixed loyalties who was a Canadian citizen just 18 months ago.

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  10. Ralph says:

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  11. Lynn says:

    After listening to this information, I’d like to throw out the fact that Barack Obama is also NOT a natural born citizen, because his Father was not a citizen of the United States. Is my assumption correct? If so, everything during his presidency is null and void.

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    1. smrstrauss says:

      EVERY child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats and members of an invading enemy army (and Obama’s birth on US soil has been proven overwhelmingly).

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

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  12. TimClarkSr says:

    Null and void!!! Ageed!! Obama , maybe born in Hawaii, but his father certainly was not a U. S. Citizen.
    Trump will be our next president, even though I do not agree with him, we must vote for him to stop the demo from ruining AMERICA.

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    1. smrstrauss says:

      EVERY child born on US soil except for the children of foreign diplomats and of members of invading armies is a Natural Born US Citizen REGARDLESS of the citizenship of the parents at the time.

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

      THAT, BTW, is why the chief justice of the USA (who knows the US Constitution even if you disagree with him on some rulings) swore in Obama after each election. And it is also why John McCain and Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan and Karl Rove and the Republican Party did not object to his being sworn in. (Neither did Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee or Ron Paul or Rand Paul.)

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